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Post by stoersignal on Nov 13, 2020 14:54:59 GMT -5
anybody else already tried the new live 11b with Arsenal PS2? the script isn`t listed , although all the other arsenal scripts are?
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Post by moodlab on Nov 13, 2020 18:42:52 GMT -5
Yes, I just tried. My experience is the same. The Arsenal PS2 scripts do not appear in the drop menu even though they are in the MIDI Remote Scripts folder. My Arsenal NLCX scripts do appear in the list, but they don't work. My PXT Live+ script seems to be working on my push 1, though. Haven't tried DDC, but I no longer use it. So for now, Arsenal doesn't seem to be happening in Live 11 beta. When I ran the installer, I was not prompted to select which Live installation I wanted to install into. Were you? I ran the installer, then manually copied the scripts into the MIDI Remote Scripts folder, which worked for Live 10.
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Post by naaman on Nov 14, 2020 14:37:29 GMT -5
the Maschine Jam script is listed and selectable but does not load up on the hardware , it seems to be simply not working on the 11b version
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Post by stoersignal on Nov 15, 2020 12:01:55 GMT -5
maybe anybody with some python skills around?
i decompyled the push scripts and compared the older with the current.
it seems that beside the functions imported at the beginning of the new scripts the only difference seems that everything that was defined as "unicode" changed to "str". i guess it won`t be hard for any experienced pythoner to change that.
the only reason why i spend my time with this is the long absence of stray and the feeling that we would have to wait ages for the update.
if someone needs the decompyled scripts: just let me know!
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Post by moodlab on Nov 15, 2020 20:00:48 GMT -5
I'm in no position to say for sure of course, but I doubt if it will be as simple as changing just a few things in those decompiled scripts. None of my Arsenal scripts are working, but my PXT Live+ script is working. While testing it out in the beta I got an error message I've never seen. Something about the script I was using having an old method for note selection that's not compatible with new MPE functionality. The error dialog presented me with a choice. I wish I had taken a screen shot because I can't remember exactly what the choices were, but one of the choices was to continue using this script in the old way for this device, with the understanding that I couldn't control mpe with it if I made that choice. That's what i selected.
It makes me think that there is so much new stuff in Live 11 that trying to run these scripts might be more trouble than it's worth.
You think it'll be a long wait until these are updated?
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Post by stoersignal on Nov 15, 2020 22:53:33 GMT -5
You think it'll be a long wait until these are updated? in the past, stray was always very fast regarding updates, but who knows how long it will take this time, since he is absent in this forum for almost half a year...... let`s hope the best |
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Post by zengel on Nov 16, 2020 10:09:24 GMT -5
Same here . Live 11 is in beta... should certainly wait the official release before any update. As they work for Ableton now perhaps Arsenal will be natively part of Ableton now !!!  I The harder is to be patient  |
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Post by moodlab on Nov 16, 2020 15:25:33 GMT -5
Yeah. I hope these scripts aren't dead products. Stray, if you ever look at these boards, some words of assurance would be appreciated.
Ableton should just acquire this stuff and include it. It's too cool to just let it drop. I wonder if the deal Stray made distributing ClyphXPro through Isotonik complicates that.
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Post by ich on Nov 21, 2020 10:04:06 GMT -5
the script isn`t listed , although all the other arsenal scripts are Same issue with Live 10.1.30, btw. While with 10.1.25 it worked fine. |
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Post by mordridbagguns on Nov 23, 2020 22:37:10 GMT -5
yes 10.1.30 lost the Arsenal PS2 scripts from dropdown...
Live.log says: (Quoted from the top of the log file, although Arsenal Remote Script errors are logged with every app start through today 11/23)
2020-11-18T17:45:59.424748: info: #######################################
2020-11-18T17:45:59.425363: info: Started: Live 10.1.30 Build: 2020-10-27_fc0fea66dc
2020-11-18T17:45:59.425404: info: #######################################
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2020-11-18T17:46:05.465363: info: ASIO: SInit: finished
2020-11-18T17:46:05.465409: info: Audio In Out: OnArchitecturesAdded started
2020-11-18T17:46:05.465449: info: Audio In Out: OnArchitecturesAdded finished
2020-11-18T17:46:09.136398: info: RemoteScriptError: Traceback (most recent call last):
2020-11-18T17:46:09.136461: info: RemoteScriptError: File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
2020-11-18T17:46:09.136758: info: RemoteScriptError: File "C:\ProgramData\Ableton\Live 9.7 Suite\Resources\MIDI Remote Scripts\Arsenal_PS2_A\__init__.py", line 20, in <module>
2020-11-18T17:46:09.137010: info: RemoteScriptError: File "C:\ProgramData\Ableton\Live 9.7 Suite\Resources\MIDI Remote Scripts\_Arsenal\PS2\PS2Base.py", line 33, in <module>
2020-11-18T17:46:09.137258: info: RemoteScriptError: File "C:\ProgramData\Ableton\Live 9.7 Suite\Resources\MIDI Remote Scripts\_Arsenal\PS2\PS2MainEncoderManager.py", line 12, in <module>
2020-11-18T17:46:09.137505: info: RemoteScriptError: AttributeError
2020-11-18T17:46:09.137555: info: RemoteScriptError: :
2020-11-18T17:46:09.137602: info: RemoteScriptError: 'module' object has no attribute 'get_parameter_display_value'
2020-11-18T17:46:09.137648: info: RemoteScriptError:
...and the error repeats for every "script version A - F"
(I have upgraded Live versions on my hard drive. I don't know why 10.1.30 is loading Arsenal scripts from 9.7 folders, but Arsenal PS2 automatically installs itself under all versions of Live installed on my hard drive so I'm not sure that matters)
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Post by mordridbagguns on Nov 23, 2020 23:09:17 GMT -5
maybe anybody with some python skills around? i decompyled the push scripts and compared the older with the current. it seems that beside the functions imported at the beginning of the new scripts the only difference seems that everything that was defined as "unicode" changed to "str". i guess it won`t be hard for any experienced pythoner to change that. the only reason why i spend my time with this is the long absence of stray and the feeling that we would have to wait ages for the update. if someone needs the decompyled scripts: just let me know! ***the only difference seems that everything that was defined as "unicode" changed to "str"*** This "difference" sounds to me like Ableton updated the whole "remote scripts" system in v11 (10.1.30) from the last "pre 2.0" version of Python to some 2.x version. "All strings are unicode strings in Python 2.0" is one of the biggest changes from 1.x versions. Updating Arsenal to Python 2.0 could be trivial if Stray prepared for this day ahead of time, or it could be a mess if some Arsenal functionality heavily depends on features that changed substantially or disappeared in 2.0. I'm pretty sure Stray uses compiled C modules that integrate with his Python modules to keep some of his IP private (more private than python anyway). If all of this speculation is true, I'm guessing at a minimum those C modules need to be recompiled for Python 2.0 and then he would need to release an update/installer to users like us. |
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Post by jbone1313 on Dec 2, 2020 20:05:15 GMT -5
Ran into this issue just now. Really hope this gets updated/fixed.
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Post by moodlab on Dec 5, 2020 10:10:34 GMT -5
And now my Isotonik Launch Control XXL script has stopped working in the beta, although it seems to load. They definitely seem to be changing a bunch of stuff about remote script handling. Oddly, Stray's older PXT stuff for the Push 1 still loads and works. Well, half of my remotes are kaput, but I won't stop using the beta. It's too cool.
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Post by diggdugg on Feb 11, 2021 3:22:27 GMT -5
Kinda wish they'd make SOME sort of comment. I finally got 11 beta today. Just sat down to start making 16 Macros assignments & ugh... Arsenal doesn't work  I have all the encoder/matrix modes & scripts for 4 controllers. It's not like they DON'T know we'll be expecting it. Everyone on youtube is using 11 already. I wish there'd be an intention statement somewhere.. |
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Post by Nik on Feb 11, 2021 20:05:40 GMT -5
I agree, Live 11 doesn’t feel complete without Arsenal PS2 and ClyphX Pro.
Live 11 is officially releasing on February 23rd.
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