I find myself using NativeKontrol more often again and like the new Group Mode quite alot. I'm not sure about how KNOB 1 and 2 are used in Group Mode though.
I'd like to see SENDs being incorporated into the GROUP scheme. My favourite would be to have SEND 1 and 2 be mapped to KNOB 1 and 2, with the KNOB ASSIGN buttons switching the knobs to SEND 3 and 4 when lit and back to SEND 1 and 2 when unlit.
It would also be great if you could add another SHIFT+SHIFT activation scheme to switch GROUP on and off. At the moment you can only switch that by first pressing the left-side shift/PEDAL and then the right-side shift/PAD. Would be convinient to also be able to do it the other way around, cause for some reason my hand can strech more easily when first pressing my pinky onto the pad.
Grouping sends is a possibility for the future (although I can’t make guarantees on that). The difficulty would be in finding controls to use. The knobs wouldn’t work as they send absolute values. For grouping, we’d need something that could send relative values…like the encoder or a couple of pads/buttons.
For the Shift+Shift request, pad 11 isn’t Shift in Group Mode…it’s the on/off switch for track 11. It doesn’t become Shift until you press down the other (pedal button) Shift. I’m not sure how to do what you’re suggesting without making pad 11 ONLY be Shift.
Wouldn't it be suffient to chose the prefered pickup mode in Live? It offers all three, absolute, relative and pick-up.
I simply forgot that Pad 11 is needed for group mode. Forget about the request then, I can do some cumbersome hand-stretching. Also I'm a Remote SL user anyway and can use the faders for sends when using the Ableton template.
But thanks for the idea on group-mode. I will try to mimic it for controlling effects (and maybe also sends) in collaboration with my Remote SL. The idea is to use the pads just the way you do in Group Mode, but coupling it with using the knobs on the Remote SL instead. By that I have optical feedback and on/off switches for which tracks (upto 16) are affected and can access upto 8 endless effect-parameters plus 8 wet/dry controls for the selected tracks (plus a couple of knobs). Now all I have to find out is if the track switching can be done with normal PK scenes (cause we are using a Macbook/OS X on stage). I'll start on that today.
I’m not entirely sure what you mean by pick-up mode. Are you referring to take-over mode? If so, that’s just used to prevent jumps in values when using a control that sends absolute values…like a standard rotary knob.
You can’t use absolute values to control a group…that would simply just set every send in the group to the same value.
Relative controls send relative values. This means they don’t send every value (from 0-127)…they only send 2 values…one to increase and another to decrease. So they can increase/decrease every send in the group by the same amount.